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My ideas are constantly changing as I learn. Sometimes they even change midway through writing a post.

Sunday, December 14

I put my old website up. It's pathetic, I know. I got my first Python script working, fixed a few mistakes, and have been thinking about whether to bother with trying to set up my domain ( goodpremises.com ) before it expires.

Wednesday, December 10

I found this quote on Curiosity. It seems relevant to some ideas that have been on my mind lately:

"Besides, what good will come of standing by? What about the next time? Stand by again? And again? There's no point in delaying standing up for right. Either we should or we shouldn't. We should. (Yes, picking battles can be important, but that's just nuances.)"

I don't doubt that defending good is a good, but I don't think it's just a nuance to consider the "best" (or at least better) ways of defending good.

My question is:
What are better ways to defend and promote goodness?

Tuesday, December 2

I love it, but I think I'm going to try giving it up again. The headaches have returned, and they seem to get set off pretty easily. If I weren't such a wimp, I'd quit cold turkey.
Watching some old Gundam Wing episodes I recorded off the tv a while back. It was hard to follow at first because I started watching in the middle of the series and kept missing episodes. Eventually, I saw parts of enough episodes to be intrigued and decided to look up an episode guide. I started recording all of the episodes after that!

Wednesday, November 26

I'm a bit behind on reading Aaron's blog. His November 17th post is somewhat relevant to my posts yesterday.

Ok, so since I am back on this topic that I feel pretty clueless about...

Woty pointed out an interesting comment by Kolya

Tuesday, November 25

I had such fun writing that last post that I'm motivated to write another. (Whether I can stand to leave them up and not give in to the temptation to delete them is another matter).

Anyways, I thought it might be fun to post various ideas that seem common and also wrong.

"Holding particular mistaken ideas means that a person is bad."
Elliot seems to think it's important to stand up for one's values publicly. I'm skeptical about this - that it's anyone's business what my views are unless I want to share them. As I see it, my goal is to get my ideas straight in my own mind and that might be undermined if I were to open myself up to attacks from people. My idea is that I gain knowledge better and faster by challenging my ideas and growing them in areas that interest me or that are relevant to me.

Of course, it is good to encourage others to get better ideas, but I'm more interested in doing this on a one-on-one basis. My experiences with sharing my views with mass numbers of people have not been positive ones. It is too tempting for me to keep defending my original idea (even after I think it's wrong) in that sort of adverserial situation. Perhaps some people don't have that difficulty... I'm not so fortunate yet.

I don't think I have many readers here, though, so I don't mind posting and experimenting with the idea of being more public about my views.

1) jews are people
2) some jews are good people
3) anti-semites hate all jews
4) anti-semites hate some good people
5) hating good people is bad
6) anti-semitism is bad
7) lots of jew haters try to murder jews, and other jew haters defend the murderous ones
8) murder is bad
9) defending badness is bad
10) some people use moral relativism to avoid defending the jews.
11) such people are bad

something's missing, namely:

"not defending good people is bad"

There's probably more that is missing, but it's that one which I have some difficulty with. It sounds good, right, but I've got some questions about it.

Which people are good?
Which people should one defend first?
What level of importance should be attached to this declaration?
Is this moral obligation something that includes very public verbal defense of good people?
Does it require risking one's life? One's privacy?
Is there a time factor? Should one spend an hour a day? Two? Eight?
Should it come before providing time, attention and/or help to one's children? One's spouse or close friends?

Friday, November 14

More books!
I want more - as if I had room. My shelves are packed, I'm trying to part with as many as I can, and yet my Amazon list is growing! Some very nice person gave me a gift certificate for B&N, so now I have an excuse to bring one or more into my home. The question is, what book is worthy of shelf space?
3rd Harry Potter Trailer
Yay! It's here! Unfortunately the movie isn't coming out until Summer 2004. It's still my favorite book, and I hope the movie halfway lives up to it.

Monday, September 8

Yay! I've added the ability to comment back to my blog. It looks like this new system allows me to delete/change comments (not that I expect to do that, but it's good to be able to) and also sends me an email of each comment.
Elliot is offering 3 links to anyone who votes for/links to Virtue Pure's site for some blog contest. I'm not looking for links, but here's my vote:

Virtue Pure: On Roleplaying

Virtue Pure posts tend to be a bit longer than my attention span can normally withstand, and I am not especially fond of roleplaying, but I thought the article helped me look at ideas in an interesting new way.

Roleplaying seems like it should be a very fun and interesting form of entertainment and a great way to learn, but it is hard to get the most out of it when one is self-conscious about playing a role. I can enjoy it briefly with young children - who for some reason do NOT make me feel self-conscious. (How can I be self-conscious with people who so obviously delight in whatever attempt I make and join in so enthusiastically?)

I also have a hard time buying into the character or setting for very long or caring at all what happens to them (and should I care, it always seems that something bad is happening to them ;P ) Perhaps it's a matter of practice? Anyhow, good luck to Virtue Pure.

Apparently, it is allowed to vote twice for a blog, so here's my other vote:
Virtue Pure: On Roleplaying

Thursday, September 4

CD Prices

They're dropping. Apparently sales have been dropping throughout the industry over the last 3 years and this is a move to improve sales.

I found it interesting that the recession or "economic downturn" wasn't mentioned as a contributing factor to the drop in sales. I can't help thinking that a tight budget has many people cutting their budget. Being able to download the music free probably has something to do with the cuts hurting CD sales.

Wednesday, September 3

News is boring or upsetting or interesting

I remember now one of the reasons I've been avoiding news. Here's my summary of a typical day of news: someone appearing in court or facing sentencing or being cleared of charges, people dying or being memorialized, Congress debating some issue and trying to decide between two or more stupid choices, a politician travels somewhere, something going on at the U.N. It used to be that I would read or watch the different issues and react to them meaningfully with shock, horror, outrage, and I suppose on occasion with relief or joy. Eventually my reactions have all become a sort of dull resignation.

Now that I've taken a break from the news, though, I do feel a certain curiousity about the current state of things. Candidates for presidency are starting to make announcements. It seems like it wasn't very long ago that I was wondering if I should brave the rain to find out if Bush won the election. Like him or not, I didn't want to miss the opportunity to witness the victory speech of a new President.

I'm curious to get a look at the stock market and economic news. The bit about celebrities being asked to sign a Scientology "Contract" looked interesting with the implications it might have for other cults or religions.

In the news

I have decided to set about correcting the tendency of mine to avoid news. I am still thinking about what sources I should ultimately look to in order to become more informed about current events. For now, I will be browsing Fox News.


I am slightly embarrassed to admit that I was surprised to see the U.S. is handing over partial control of Iraq to Poland. You see, I had forgotten that the war was likely over *blush*. I haven't managed to avoid the news completely, so I remember something about Saddam and his son being killed or missing in action. I don't remember the details.

I find it interesting that so many of the deaths of U.S. soldiers have happened since President Bush ended the major fighting. My first impulse was to be happy to see that so few Americans have died (compared to other wars or even compared to people dying in violent crimes in America, likely), but then I thought about the 248 people whose friends and family are now mourning them. :(

I suppose one could think of all the families who are NOT now mourning the loss of their loved ones.

Monday, August 11

No more headaches

Ok, I still get one occassionally, but it's definitely much less often since I quit caffeine.

Monday, July 21

New Taking Children Seriously blog
I am very curious to see how the new Taking Children Seriously blog turns out. I haven't managed to keep up with it, but from what I've skimmed, it looks good.

Why I don't actually read blogs much
Personally, I prefer to be able to pick articles on a site according to subject (one reason why, although I write this blog for my amusement, I don't actually READ them much). I have figured out that if I skim a lot, I can skip right to subjects that interest me. Still, it would be a nice feature if they could be sorted by subject or indexed. The one blog I actually consistently read is Austin's. It's updated just infrequently enough that I can keep up with it and frequently enough that I don't often go to it only to find there are no updates. Also, I find his particular combination of style, variety of topics, and arrogance entertaining.
At first glance, I wondered how Austin could imply that the bus driver was arrogant.

It didn't occur to me at first that the driver, presuming that he "knew" the passengers didn't have a right to be on the bus before actually trying to understand their explanation was actually being very arrogant.

On the one hand, arrogance seems like it might be a great hindrance to one's growth of knowledge since less arrogant people might be inclined to withhold information and criticism. On the other hand, arrogance might gain one access to people and experiences that a less arrogant person might miss out on entirely.


I have written a few simple programs in Python. I like that I don't have to worry about semi-colons! (I have this tendency to leave them off).

I've also been spending a bit of time learning VI.

Why learn Vi?
-It's widely available (maybe the most widely available editor in Unix/Linux/Freebsd)
-Supposedly it has some very good advanced features. I do get frustrated with programs that won't let me format a document EXACTLY the way I want. We'll see how Vi does with this.

Some things I like about Vi so far:
-Being able to use keystrokes to do search and replace.
-Being able to use keystrokes to delete/copy/paste words, multiple words, lines at a time

Some annoying things about Vi so far:
-I have to remove my fingers from the home row to go into command mode to fix mistakes as I'm typing.
-Having to switch to command mode to erase a typo. There may be some easier way to do this, but I'm very accustomed to being able to just hit Backspace. For some reason Backspace doesn't seem to work consistently in Vi.
-I keep getting confused about what mode I'm in and either finding myself in a whole different part of the screen after accidently deleting some stuff or finding that I just typed a bunch of junk when I MEANT to be at the other part of the screen.

I'm hoping these are configurable things that I just haven't worked out yet. I suspect, though, that people may use Vi a lot differently than I'm accustomed to using Word.

One suggestion I've also had is to use Pico. Actually, I like Pico, but not all systems have it, and I don't know enough about Unix/Linux to easily download it.

I'm wondering whether Vim might have some of these annoyances worked out better too.

Sunday, June 29


adj ...... 2: characterized by often poignant difference or incongruity between what is expected and what actually is; "madness, an ironic fate for such a clear thinker"; "it was ironical that the well-planned scheme failed so completely" [syn: ironical]

Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University

I thought I was going to have to retract my statement about her song, but my friend marly (who couldn't comment thanks to my comments being down :P ) showed me an interesting analysis of the song, Ironic, by Alanis Morissette.

I think the guy is too harsh, why spoil a great song?

Posted By: Leo 6/30/2003 11:50:35 AM
I used to find it amusing when I'd hear the Alanis Morissette song, Ironic.

"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

However, I was pleasantly surprised, recently, to come across a few gems.

It took hearing it a few times for me to catch what was being said with Perfect, but now I can't hear it without imagining a child hearing this from his parents. Maybe they don't say the words, but they convey their meaning through their actions.

I don't know whether love exists or whether it should be unconditional, but I think a child needs to know he's got someone hoping for the best for him - no matter what. Maybe all people need it. Anyways, here's the lyrics:
Perfect - by Alanis Morissette

Sometimes is never quite enough
If you're flawless, then you'll win my love
Don't forget to win first place
Don't forget to keep that smile on your face
Be a good boy
Try a little harder
You've got to measure up
And make me prouder
How long before you screw it up
How many times do I have to tell you to hurry up
With everything I do for you
The least you can do is keep quiet
Be a good girl
You've gotta try a little harder
That simply wasn't good enough
To make us proud
I'll live for you
I'll make you what I never was
If you're the best, then maybe so am I
Compared to him compared to her
I'm doing this for your own damn good
You'll make up for what I blew
What's the problem ...... why are you crying
Be a good boy
Push a little farther now
That wasn't fast enough
To make us happy
We'll love you just the way you are if you're perfect

The problem of these songs is some people won''t get the sarcasm.

Posted By: Leo 6/30/2003 11:56:53 AM

Friday, June 27


n : a precise rule (or set of rules) specifying how to solve some problem
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University

Wednesday, June 25

I was going through my old data cd's and found something I wrote for my company's homepage (no longer in business):

Who we Are:
We're a brand new computer and network service company with a few old-fashioned ideas about service -- you know, things like quality, promptness, competitive pricing, and did I mention quality?

The company may be new, but our staff have been working with computers for a number of years. All of us started at about age 9 with a TRS 80, Commodore 64, or TI 99 and continued through the DOS era, the Windows era, and now the Windows 95/NT era. We also enjoy variety and have worked with other operating systems such as Linux, OS/2, and Novell. For "fun" we set up a small network in our own home. We are now up to 7 computers plus a "guest" spot for our friends who want to bring over a computer to join us in our frequent Quake 2 battles....

Oh No! I actually remember when you ran the company, it brings back memories. Too bad it went away. :(

Posted By: marly 6/25/2003 10:57:32 AM


Posted By: Leo 6/25/2003 9:47:15 AM

Tuesday, June 24

I've been working on figuring out how to sing and to train my ear for hearing tuning better lately. One song that I am having fun trying to figure out is "Bastille Day" by Rush. I mostly just like the words and I'm not even sure I'll ever figure out all the pitches, but the words make it fun to try.

"But they're marching to Bastille Day.
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize.
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel
And let his kingdom rise."
I'm trying to figure out which language and editor to learn. You see, I want to make an AI program/bot. Perl, C, and Python have all been suggested as languages. Vi and Emacs have been suggested as editors (although personally, I'm wondering why I can't just use notepad). It'd be nice to be able to program for Windows, so I'll have to figure out some way to get cheap/free compilers/interpreters for all those. So far I haven't had much luck getting gcc stuff to work.

You can find the M$ SDK here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/downloads/howtoget.aspx#section3

It should get you started with being able to write programs in Microsoft Windows as well as making forms or console applications.

After you''ve downloaded the SDK and have it properly installed you can then create your first Windows application.

So whip out your favorite text editor (notepad works) and then type in the following code:


namespace MyNamespace
public class MyForm : System.Windows.Forms.Form
public MyForm()
this.Text = "Hello Form";

public static void Main()
System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(new MyForm());

After you’ve done that, save the file as MyForm.cs and you’re ready to compile it by opening a command prompt using the following:

Start -> Run -> then typing in:
cmd /k "c:\program files\Microsoft Visual Studio .net\Common7\tools\vsvars32.bat"

After you''ve done that, all you need to do to compile it is:

csc MyForm.cs /reference:System.dll /reference:System.Windows.Forms.dll

Then run the exe and you should have a form displayed.

It''s that easy!

Hopefully all the code and syntax formats correctly. I would defiantly recommend getting a good book though, so that you can learn Object Orientated Programming and all that jazz.

Also remember, program in a language that you’re happy programming in, You can pick anything you want, C, C++, C#, VB, COBOL, Perl, PHP, Python, Fortran, you name it, as long as you can understand how to program you can program in any language!


I hope this formats right.

Posted By: marly 6/25/2003 5:40:01 PM

If you want to program for Windows, I would suggest the Windows .NET SDK, its free, comes with a compiler, and you can use notepad. In addition, you can get Microsoft Visual Studio as well which is a tad expensive, but it comes with an IDE and all that jazz. Seek me out if you wish to learn more.

Posted By: marly 6/25/2003 8:33:54 AM
I'm working on putting together a site in honor of the book Flatland.
Check out the blog of Austin Hair who I happened to meet last week, I think, on a #palmchat irc help channel. He seems a very nice and helpful guy.

While you're at it, check out the blog of my friend, Elliot, who seems to have picked up an anonymous fan blogger and critic - Virtue Pure

I'm quite curious as to who it could be. I have a few guesses that I won't mention for now. Anyone else have an idea?
Written by me, Inspired by a dear friend but really for anyone who needs


Who ever knew
What a Hug could do for you.
And Squeeze again,
If you please?
Did I mention it's my birthday?
According to dictionary.com, love, means "A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness."
Love is a four letter word.

I know another four letter word that''s more versatile than love.

For example, out of all of the words in the English language that begins with
the letter ''F'', there''s only one we refer to as the ''F'' word. It''s the one
magical word that can describe pain, pleasure, hate, and love.

''Fuck'' falls into many different grammatical categories... as a transitive verb
("John fucked Shirley"), or as an intransitive verb ("Shirley fucks."). It can
also be used as an adjective, as part of an adverb ("Shirley talks to fuckin''
much"), as adverb enhancing an adjective ("Shirley is fuckin'' beautiful"), as a
noun ("I don''t give a fuck."), as part of a word ("absofuckinglutely" or
"infuckingcredible"), and as almost every word in a sentence ("Fuck the
fuckin'' fuckers!").

There''s no other word with quite the same versatility. ''Fuck'' can be used to
describe fraud ("I got fucked at the used car lot."), dismay ("Ah fuck it."),
trouble ("I''m really fucked now."), aggression ("Don''t fuck with me, buddy!"),
difficulty ("I don''t understand this fuckin'' question"), inquiry ("Who the fuck
are you?"), incompetence ("He''s a fuck-up.") and dismissal ("Why don''t you go
outside and play hide-and-go-fuck-yourself?").

With all of these multipurpose examples, how can anyone be offended by such a
versatile and beautiful word?


Posted By: marly 6/25/2003 5:50:52 PM

Monday, May 19

Headaches and Migraine

This site has an interesting list of different contributors to headaches. I'd love to get some comments from people who've had difficulties with headaches and what has helped (and what hasn't helped too).

I see chiropractic cure headaches day in and day out

Posted By: Stephen Trapani 6/19/2003 4:18:58 PM

In Safari your links look just like other text.

Posted By: Elliot Temple 6/7/2003 2:27:29 AM

This won''t make sense for you, I think, but caffeine is the best cure for the migraines I sometimes get. Migraine for me means visual disturbances (funny holes in my vision with kaleidoscope edges), followed by the sensation of having a needle jabbed into my eyeball(s) through the back of my skull and my brain, followed by head pain so debilitating that I cannot move, followed by a bout or two or three of vomiting, followed by sleep... Bright light and lound noises make everything worse throughout.

Tylenol and aspirin do nothing. Advil brings on extra puking. Hot baths, showers, massage, and relaxation exercises mellow the pain and sometimes enable me to skip the vomiting stage. One cup of coffee, early on, and I''m totally fine. Of course, I actually avoid caffeine the rest of the time... I''ve also heard that chiropractic work can help, or acupuncture. I''m not sure how to test that out unless you''re on really friendly terms with a chiropractor or an acupuncturist.

Oh yes, you said below that you get them about once a month? Mine are, I''m almost positive, hormonal (I get them when my body is gearing up to start ovulating again, not when I''ve got a regularish period). Might want to check on the possible hormone connection as well. I''ve also hear food allergies and seasonal changes can trigger migraines.

Anyway, good luck with this.

Posted By: Dawn Frank 6/4/2003 7:33:33 PM

High doses of paracetamol or tylenol.

Posted By: Leo 5/21/2003 4:50:28 AM
Check out my friend's blog Erase and Rewind: 'Cause I've been changing my mind

Friday, May 16

Caffeine and Migraine - How to Prevent Headache

I don't know if what I get are officially "migraines" since I've never been diagnosed. I do know that when I abstained from caffeine for 6+ months (except some limited amounts of chocolate) I had no headaches. I celebrated by having some coffee # and next day OUCH! The symptoms do sound like a migraine - in addition to a headache, I get neck pain, lights and loud or sudden noises make it worse. I think I get them about once a month or so when I regularly have caffeine (I try to keep it to 1 to 3 cups of coffee or colas).

#It might have been coke. It could be that sugar is related also. #

Saturday, May 10

Nurturing involves interaction.

Interaction involves paying attention..

Paying attention involves offering one's best and most relevant knowledge.

09/06/2007 Update: Weird thing that back then, I didn't think of paying attention as listening and maybe gaining knowledge.

Wednesday, May 7

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

Don't forget to rinse again, but technically, that's how hair-washing usually works. I wonder how many people have actually tried "Lather" first.

If you repeat "Rinse. Lather." won''t you end up with stuff in your hair?
Posted By: Gil 5/10/2003 12:54:30 AM

Friday, April 4

It's amazing how an idea long abandoned can still have parts of itself embedded in other ideas years later. The last blog I wrote was about why people might like something that isn't traditionally considered "good" for them. The thing is, that's not really how I think it develops. It's more like, at one time people who preferred sweetness and therefore ate more fruit must have survived better than people who didn't. Apparently, this preference for sweetness (and therefore fruit) was a huge advantage to us because I've not heard of many people who don't like sweetness. It might seem like a minor difference, but one way is saying "why" people like a thing and the other is "why" people survived thus far while liking sweetness. One implies some sort of creator who made people who liked X because Y. The other implies that people who liked X are alive today because Y.

Wednesday, February 12

Related to the idea of withholding "junk books" is the idea that there is other "junk" (TV and Video Games) that fills up the mind and leaves no appetite for more "nutritious" ideas.

I've read that the reason people like sugar so much is because it a signal that something, fruit, was good for them (or maybe people who preferred sweet things ate fruit and survived and had more offspring since fruit was good for them and helped them to be healthier). Now that sugar can be separated from fruit, the fondness for sweets can't be entirely trusted. A person could eat and enjoy pure sugar or other foods made with sugar but miss out on important nutrients that are found in fruit. Therefore, a person might be healthier if they stuck to eating unprocessed foods. On the other hand, they might take advantage of this knowledge to make healthier foods taste even better or to make better tasting foods healthier.

Does this analogy hold with learning and enjoyment? Did "enjoyment" lead people to do things (learning and creating) which were good for them and helped them survive and procreate? Do TV, Video Games, and poorly written books offer enjoyment without learning and creativity?

Friday, February 7

Attention and Self-discipline
(revised from Feb. 12, 2003 8:34 PM)
The idea that one can do anything for 15 minutes reminded me of similar advice from another source - Charlotte Mason. She lived in England during the late 1800s and early 1900s as an educator. She also encouraged parents to educate their own children. She had a lot of ideas about education, but the one relevant here had to do with "habit training" - specifically training attention.

She thought that children (and adults) learned to be inattentive when forced to work long past the point of interest in a subject. She claimed #suggested# that attention could be trained by keeping the lessons short and varied, by encouraging the child to pay full attention since the lesson would soon be over, and by stopping the lesson before interest was lost and attention began to be difficult to maintain. She suggested 15 to 20 minutes per lesson (or type of activity/subject) for a beginning 6 year old student, and then gradually increasing the time by 5 minutes, per lesson period, per year until the student could focus for 45 minutes #May 7, 2003# per subject# at high school age.

There was another technique that was supposed to help with training the habit of attention -- the withholding or limited access to picture books and "junk books" (my term) from children. The idea was that a child might get "filled up" with junk and not have interest in more mind nurturing books that required greater attention and effort to enjoy.

#May 7, 2003# I think now that whatever interests a person nurtures the mind. One of the most nurturing acts one could do for a child is to pay attention and interact with him. Another important aspect of nurturing is helping a child get rid of "junk" that doesn't interest him. As his knowledge grows about what is healthy and good for him, provided by plenty of interaction with interesting people, what interests him will tend to be healthier and better for him. #

Me neither, 5 minutes seems to be my limit.

Posted By: becky smith 2/7/2003 4:43:00 PM

I can't do 15 minutes of homework. But I'm weird.

Posted By: Elliot Temple 2/7/2003 2:08:00 PM

Thursday, February 6


Revisited May 6, 2008
(revised Feb. 12, 2003 8:40 PM)

In case you haven't heard of this support group for the clutterly challenged, FLY stands for Finally Loving Yourself. Marla (the author and listowner) sends out various reminders, tips, and testimonials revolving around the subject of housework for SHE's (Sidetracked Home Executives).

I could live without the purple puddles, the feather duster, and the shoes, but there is something compelling about some of her messages. She criticizes some of the bad ideas floating around out there that can trip up people in getting what they want done.

One important bad idea that she often criticizes is, "If you can't do something right, don't do it at all." This motto, although it's intended to inspire, can be an enormous obstacle to doing much of anything. All one has to do is think, "Oh, I can't do that right, better not try." Instant excuse to avoid trying new things, getting work done (even work you LIKE), etc.

Flylady Marla has an anti-motto for this. It goes something like, "You can do anything for 15 minutes." Instead of looking to "do it right", she suggests just working on it for 15 minutes.

A related motto or maybe just a rewording of the one above is, "A job badly done is still a blessing." She especially warns about not accepting what help your children are willing to give, but she also mentions how important it is to accept oneself.

I love the advice to just vacuum the middles of rooms. If you're an immaculate housekeeper anyways, you might not appreciate this advice. (Then again, if it gave you an extra hour to play with your kids or read your favorite book, maybe it WOULD be appreciated). For one who is striving to just get the place looking less like the wake of a tornado and more like... a light gust had blown through, it might be just the thing.
I'm an atheist and I have no problem talking about blessings. Even outside D&D games. No more than *wishing* you well.
Posted By: Elliot Temple 2/7/2003 2:07:00 PM

One of the Bad Things About Austin

My agreement with this post is undecided as of 05/06/2008.

One of the bad things about Austin

"Austin City Council members Thursday lent their voice to a growing chorus of cities urging the Bush administration not to go to war with Iraq without the support of other countries." -- Austin American-Statesman

Umm, the bright side is that's one less regulation the council has had time to inflict on Austin today.

*Comments* (Comments on this broke, so I saved them within the post)
oh, also, it's curiosity, with no u. (ur link is spelled wrong)

Posted By: Elliot Temple 2/7/2003 2:12:00 PM

I guess if there are other countries on our side, like Britain and Australia, then they will support the war? Or do only France and Germany count as other countries? And if France and Germany come around, will your city council?

Posted By: Elliot Temple 2/7/2003 2:04:00 PM


Posted By: becky smith 2/7/2003 11:25:00 AM


Posted By: becky smith 2/7/2003 11:24:00 AM